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The Everyday PM Podcast | "Bob McGannon on Intelligent Disobedience Leadership"


Bob is the co-founder and director of Intelligent Disobedience Leadership and founder of Mindavation. Specializing in advanced leadership techniques, strategic program and portfolio management and establishing Project Management Offices on three continents, Bob has worked with inexperienced to advanced business leaders from more than 15 countries, with a wide variety of industry backgrounds and has delivered keynote addresses to conferences and chapter meetings around the world. With more than 30 years of I/T, project management and business analysis experience, 18 of those years with the IBM Corporation, I am honored to welcome Bob onto The Everyday PM Podcast to share his wisdom with our community.



Not only is Bob a certified Project Management Professional by PMI, he also holds university degrees in Operations Research and Mathematics and is the author of Intelligent Disobedience: The Difference Between Good and Great Leaders, which was released in March 2018 by Routledge (Oxford). He is a LinkedIn Learning instructor, with nearly 20 courses on the platform, covering project management, advanced leadership and outsourcing management. In our conversation, we dig into Bob's professional journey, his passion for teaching, and insight into what differentiates between a good and great leader.

What is Intelligent Disobedience Leadership? According to Bob, author of Intelligent Disobedience: The Difference between Good and Great Leaders, it's knowing when and how to break, bend or invent new rules to get better outcomes. Obeying all of the rules rarely generates breakthrough business performance because it does not generate new approaches. Breaking the rules randomly does not work either. Intelligent disobedience values improved business performance over compliance with the rules, when conditions permit. This book promotes enhanced performance by promoting a higher form of ethics. Intelligent disobedience seeks to surface hidden truth and to produce actions that are of higher integrity to yield superior results. The book guides the reader to evaluate their work environment, current business results, and risk, to determine if, when, and how acting with intelligent disobedience can enhance their business outcomes and their career.


This rich and sophisticated book interweaves real-life experiences from successful leaders with the themes of human psychology, ethics, decision making, delegation, communicating upwards and downwards ... Everything the senior manager needs to survive and thrive in a complex, uncertain, ambiguous, and fast-changing world.


You can purchase the book here on Amazon or read more about the concept of Intelligent Disobedience here: http://intelligentdisobedience.com/


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Ann Campea, MSPM, MPH, PMP

Worldwide Readiness Program Manager, Apple, Inc.

Program/Project management professional with 10 years of experience in product development, physical retail launches, health care, and tech industries.


Robert L. (Bob) McGannon, PMP, GWCPM

Director - Intelligent Disobedience Leadership / LinkedIn Learning Author / Supporter of Curated Culture / Keynote Speaker / Coach

Bob is a certified Project Management Professional by PMI, was a certified Executive Project Manager with IBM, a Certified Project Management Coach for the Boeing Corporation, and is currently an Honorary Adjunct Professor at Bond University.

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